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by Vanquish » Thu, 18. Apr 24, 04:24
一个月前买的游戏，目前500h，大概重开过4、5个档。每个档或多或少100h吧。
特别喜欢这类游戏，来提一些个人的感想，仅供参考，自己玩的游戏不多，但喜欢的游戏都会玩很深入。
1、后期没有什么好玩的了，玩家已经无敌。没有挑战。地球改造这种真的提不起兴趣。
——这方面建议参考rimworld，轻轻松松上千小时。a.一点一滴打造基地（建造需要有归属感），b.培养小人（自己的战舰需要有归属感，及亲自培养的舰长等）。c.有一个最终目标，rimworld是飞升，那x4是什么？终局挑战就算了吧就一个战役，玩家并没有为此辛辛苦苦奋斗一个存档。或者说当你产业差不多之后你已经无敌了。
2、B族做完主线之后基本没有什么存在感了，那它存在的意义到底是什么，扮演英国女王？这方面建议b也别独自清高，配件不通用了。要不让b的配件通用化一下吧。也能拿来配配船玩，有点参与感。或者说麻烦让b融入星门网络吧，这dlc草率了。或者能解锁或研究b的科技，别的种族可以研究其武器拿来通用化。
3、妖王真的太无敌了，一舰畅行无阻，阿斯加德主炮也太夸张了，一炮一个k或者i，别说席恩了，开个巨兽就基本无敌了。当你开上这种船之后，就真的没有挑战了。无敌是多么寂寞。此处应该好好重新设计一下改装系统，属于官方开挂有点夸张了。数值过分了点。
——这方面请参考我另一个喜欢的游戏，怪物猎人，14种武器等于14个完全不一样的游戏，玩怪物猎人的人轻轻松松上千小时，因为要玩精一个武器很费劲，目前x4太自由了，做个任务你可以开s可以开m可以开战列舰，是否可以这样，每一类战舰，可以给予其意义，战役，副本，比如argon给你派个任务，去消灭一群敌人，但你只能带1s或者1队s或者1队m，那么玩家就有兴趣去配好这仅有的战舰来应对这场副本。
或者可以参考远行星号，赏金任务。你知道这个敌人有多少船，或者一些主要的船是什么战舰，那你就知道你要带多少船去挑战这个任务了。
4、玩家势力太圆滑了，没有对手，各个都可以满声望，海盗sca也就是对你小打小闹。那我辛辛苦苦建造舰队，没有一个敌人去痛揍，建造舰队来干嘛，推X吗？X这么菜，保护还来不及。还是一样，无敌了，太寂寞了，没劲。
——这方面请参考神作xcom2，上面第三点说了游戏的战术层面，那么在战役层面，玩家需要一个真正意义上的“终极挑战”，否则时间没有紧迫感，我随便开个seta挂机，钱分分钟刷到几个亿，玩家的头上需要悬着一把刀，让他玩这个游戏需要战役上做取舍，去推进，比如想要和a好，那必然和ter不好，不能什么都要，所有声望都20，太无聊了吧？
另，学习一下2k的随机系统，比如，我只是举个例子，我今天得到一艘席恩，他可以改引擎，但他不是什么改装都能装，这艘（x4里每艘船都是独立的id）特定这艘船，在杀了多少敌人之后，或者多少经验之后，才可以改装引擎，具体能改装什么，比如现在能改4种，但这艘船只能改2种中的1种，让玩家做选择，做取舍，选了其中1种，就无缘其他另外3种。要有随机性。否则x4就是批量造船，老样子，无敌，太寂寞了。我对我这艘船也没有归属感。就一个交通工具。
5、必须，必须，必须要有难度选项，游戏是个好游戏，一个好好框架。我玩了500h之后现在就想玩炼狱模式的x4基石。
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The game I bought a month ago has been running for 500 hours and has probably been restarted for 4-5 levels. Each level should take more or less 100 hours.
I really like this type of game. Here are some personal thoughts for reference only. I don't play many games myself, but I enjoy playing them in depth.
1. There's nothing fun in the later stages, players are invincible. No challenges. The transformation of the Earth really doesn't arouse interest.
——In this regard, it is recommended to refer to Rimworld and effortlessly spend thousands of hours. a. Build a base bit by bit (building requires a sense of belonging), b. cultivate villains (one's own warship needs a sense of belonging, and personally cultivate a captain, etc.). c. There is an ultimate goal, rimworld is to soar, so what is x4? The final challenge is just a battle, and players have not worked hard to save it. Or in other words, when your industry is almost complete, you are already invincible.
2. After completing the main storyline, the B tribe has almost no sense of existence. So what is the meaning of its existence, playing the role of the Queen of England? In this regard, it is suggested that B should not be arrogant alone, as accessories are not universal anymore. How about making b's accessories universal. It can also be used to match boats for fun, giving a sense of participation. Or rather, could you please let B integrate into the Stargate network? This DLC is hasty. Or it can unlock or study B's technology, and other races can study their weapons for generalization.
3. The Demon King is really invincible, with a smooth sailing ship and an exaggerated main gun in Asgard. Each gun has a k or i, not to mention Sean, opening a giant beast is basically invincible. After you board this kind of ship, there really isn't any challenge left. Invincible is so lonely. The modification system should be redesigned properly here, as it is a bit exaggerated to be an official feature. The value is a bit excessive.
——In this regard, please refer to my other favorite game, Monster Hunter. 14 different weapons are equivalent to 14 completely different games. Players can easily play Monster Hunter for thousands of hours because it is difficult to master a single weapon. Currently, x4 is too free. When doing a task, you can open S or M and open battleships. Is this possible? Each type of battleship can be given meaning, battles, and dungeons. For example, Argon sends you a task to eliminate a group of enemies, but you can only bring 1s or 1 team S or 1 team M, so players are interested in matching these only battleships to deal with this dungeon.
Alternatively, you can refer to the Journey Star and bounty missions. If you know how many ships this enemy has, or what major warships they are, then you know how many ships you need to bring to challenge this mission.
4. The player's power is too smooth, there are no opponents, and everyone can enjoy high reputation. Pirate Sca is just playing around with you. So I worked hard to build a fleet, and not a single enemy went to beat me up. What are we doing to build a fleet, pushing X? X is such a dish, there's not enough time to protect it. Still the same, invincible, too lonely, boring.
——In this regard, please refer to the masterpiece XCOM2. The third point above mentioned the tactical aspect of the game. At the battle level, players need a true "ultimate challenge", otherwise time is not urgent. I casually open a seta to hang up, and the money can reach several hundred million in minutes. The player needs to hang a knife on his head, and playing this game requires making choices and pushing forward in the battle. For example, if he wants to be good with A, he must be not good with TE, and cannot have everything. All reputation is 20, which is too boring, right?
Also, let's learn about a 2k random system. For example, I just gave an example. Today, I got a Sean that can modify its engine, but it can't be installed with any modifications. This particular ship (each ship in x4 has an independent ID) can only modify its engine after killing a certain number of enemies or gaining a certain amount of experience. What specific modifications can be made? For example, there are currently 4 options available, but this ship can only modify one of the 2 options. Players can make choices and make choices. If they choose one option, they won't be able to modify the other 3 options. There should be randomness. Otherwise, x4 will be mass shipbuilding, as usual, invincible, and too lonely. I don't have a sense of belonging to my ship either. Just one means of transportation.
5. Must, must, must have difficulty options, the game is a good game, a good framework. After playing for 500 hours, I now want to play the x4 cornerstone of purgatory mode.
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